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Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
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Steve Hayes
2012-04-22 10:17:53 UTC
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Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.

Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide

http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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Etienne Marais
2012-04-22 10:26:27 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog:http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
“We in the ANC have declared all white farms war-zones… white men,
women and children are targets, they are part of the military and
paramilitary units and the local police force… Source: BBC
Monitoring,
October 28 1986

Seems premiditated to me
Steve Hayes
2012-04-23 03:31:28 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Apr 2012 03:26:27 -0700 (PDT), Etienne Marais
Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog:http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
“We in the ANC have declared all white farms war-zones… white men,
women and children are targets, they are part of the military and
paramilitary units and the local police force… Source: BBC
Monitoring,
October 28 1986
Seems premiditated to me
Yet another example of the real meaning of "genocide" being trivialised by
applying it to all sorts of things that are not genocide.
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Bob Dubery
2012-04-23 03:39:44 UTC
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Post by Etienne Marais
Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog:http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
“We in the ANC have declared all white farms war-zones… white men,
women and children are targets, they are part of the military and
paramilitary units and the local police force… Source: BBC
Monitoring,
October 28 1986
"I have fought against white domination and I have fought against
black domination" - Nelson Mandela, 1990

""The debate on the songs with inflammatory lyrics is important. When
we're moulding our country we need to say we unite all South Africans,
even those we fought against [during the struggle]. There's no need
for certain people to feel unwelcome in their country. We need to
include everyone in our country because the ANC will rule the country
until those that are dead rise back to life."
Jacob Zuma - last week.
Bob Dubery
2012-04-23 11:08:49 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
Nicely put. These farm murders are all sorts of horrible, as are all
murders, but they are NOT genocide and the case that they ARE is
pretty flimsy.
Etienne Marais
2012-04-23 13:04:11 UTC
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Post by Bob Dubery
Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
Nicely put. These farm murders are all sorts of horrible, as are all
murders, but they are NOT genocide and the case that they ARE is
pretty flimsy.
So it is just coincedence that they are much more frequent per capita ?
Steve Hayes
2012-04-23 17:10:19 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:04:11 -0700 (PDT), Etienne Marais
Post by Etienne Marais
Post by Bob Dubery
Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
Nicely put. These farm murders are all sorts of horrible, as are all
murders, but they are NOT genocide and the case that they ARE is
pretty flimsy.
So it is just coincedence that they are much more frequent per capita ?
More frequent per capita than what?
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Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
Bob Dubery
2012-04-25 05:56:12 UTC
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Post by Etienne Marais
Post by Bob Dubery
Post by Steve Hayes
Last week there was a Holocaust memorial day, and it reminds us of the real
meaning of "genocide", which has been trivialised by applying it to all sorts
of things that are not genocide.
Holocaust memorial, and what is, and is not genocide
http://khanya.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/holocaust-memorial/
Nicely put. These farm murders are all sorts of horrible, as are all
murders, but they are NOT genocide and the case that they ARE is
pretty flimsy.
So it is just coincedence that they are much more frequent per capita ?
They are? People make all sorts of claims, but without reliable stats
and a clear definition of the target group it's hard to put trust in
them. Clearly not every murder on farm can qualify for your purposes,
and for those that do we'd need to consider motive as well.

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